Whom, then, do I Call Educated?

Persistence Quotes
Take a look at these two quotations; I can’t figure out who said what…and since they’re two different people, did one copy the other?  Wikipedia says Isocrates was a student of Socrates, and that Socrates greatly admired Isocrates. 

Isocrates went on to establish a very successful philosophy school of his own.  Anyway, without doing an all out search for the truth, the only other interesting bit of info I could find was that Socrates is thought to have never even written anything; he was known as a speaker, not a writer.  Don’t take my word for it; it’s just something I read.  So, read the quotes below; you’ll see a few similarities.

First quote by Isocrates (436-338 BC):

Whom, then, do I call educated? First, those who control circumstances instead of being mastered by them, those who meet all occasions manfully and act in accordance with intelligent thinking, those who are honourable in all dealings, who treat good-naturedly persons and things that are disagreeable; and furthermore, those who hold their pleasures under control and are not overcome by misfortune; finally, those who are not spoiled by success.”

Now for the quote by Socrates (470-399 BC) :

Whom then, do I call educated?

First, those who manage well the circumstances which they encounter day by day, and who possess a judgment which is accurate in meeting occasions as they arise, and rarely misses the expedient course of action;

Next, those who are decent and honorable in their intercourse with all men, bearing easily and good naturedly that which is unpleasant or offensive in others, and being themselves as agreeable and reasonable to their associates as is humanly possible to be;

Furthermore, those who hold their pleasures always under control, and are not unduly overcome by their misfortunes, bearing up under them bravely and in a manner worthy of our common nature;

Finally, and most important of all are those who are not spoiled by their successes, and do not desert their true selves, but hold their ground steadfastly, as wise and sober minded men, rejoicing no more in the good things which have come to them through chance than in those which through their own nature and intelligence are theirs since birth.

Those who have a character which is in accord, not with one of these things, but with all of them, these I maintain are educated and whole men, possessed of all the virtues of a man.”

Notice the few small similarities? Just something I found during my search for quotes to share….


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